The Roth vs. Traditional Debate

July 27, 2017 / Uncategorized
This week the Wall Street Journal reported on a recent Harvard study about the savings habits of people using Roth 401k contributions vs. traditional pre-tax 401k contributions. In a nutshell, the researchers are stating that people contribute roughly the same money whether they are saving pre-tax or after-tax in the Roth option. Because the Roth savings all come out tax-free, the Roth nest-egg is more valuable.
From the article, lead author John Beshears explains:
“If a worker saves $5,000 a year in a 401(k) for 40 years and earns 5% return a year, the final balance will be more than $600,000. If the 401(k) is a Roth, the full balance is available for retirement spending. If the 401(k) is a traditional one, taxes are due on the balance. Let’s say the person’s tax rate is 20% in retirement. That makes for a difference of $120,000 in spending power, which a life annuity will translate into about $700 a month in extra spending.”
It’s an interesting look at investing behavior rather than investing advice (and I think Beshears draws a clear line in the WSJ interview between the two). Here’s a few other thoughts, if you’re wondering whether your Roth 401k is the right choice for you to use:
- When it comes to behavioral management, many times what we are doing is tricking ourselves. If I were to translate the researchers in this case, people using the Roth 401k are basically tricking themselves into committing more to their retirement savings because they are committing 1) the dollars they save into the plan and 2) the taxes they owe on those dollars. If you save pretax you’re getting a tax deduction for the amount you save and therefor taking those tax dollars out of your current budget. This is one more behavioral trick that may work for you.
- You can adjust for the behavioral trick: If you decide that you want to save pre-tax in your 401k but you don’t want to fall behind in spending power in the future, nothings stopping you from saving more money elsewhere. Take the money that you would have paid in taxes had you saved into the Roth and set it aside for the future. This takes more discipline but there’s no reason you can’t do it.
- Tax rate now vs. in retirement: Part of the math you should be doing when considering a Roth vs Traditional savings vehicle is whether you’ll be in a higher or lower tax bracket in retirement. If you’re in your peak earning years then you may still want to put money away pre-tax and get a deduction when you’re at your highest tax bracket. If you expect your tax bracket to increase, then math would suggest you save with the Roth.
- Individual situations matter! Whenever this type of article comes out, there are many people who read it and say “I should be saving into my Roth!”. But your individual situation will dictate what you should be doing. Tax rates, other income sources, current savings, and many many more factors can impact what you should do. Don’t take advice from articles that don’t know a lick about you. And like I said above, I think the Beshears and the WSJ article actually do a good job of saying that the study shouldn’t be considered advice. So realize that the article and the study are really describing how people act rather than how people should act.
- Earlier this year I wrote an article describing some of the trade-offs to consider when debating Roth vs. Traditional savings. Check that out for more factors to consider.
- The headline on the WSJ stinks: “Roth vs. Traditional 401(k): Study Finds a Clear Winner”: For all the credit I give to the actual substance of the article, this kind of headline is bogus and may lead people astray. There’s no such thing as a “clear winner” without knowing your personal details.
If you really want to figure out whether you should be saving into a Roth or Traditional plan, you need to analyze the facts of your own finances. I would suggest working with a professional, but hey, I’m biased. Feel free to call or email if you want to discuss it.
(originally written June 13, 2017)
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